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True Gnosis


Have you ever pondered upon what the outcome would be if the amount of years spent by students in disciplines such as physics/quantum mechanics and the like were to put all that energy and effort into years of study into metaphysics? True Sages might roam the earth in abundance(depending on your defenition of a sage that is)!

And speaking of sages I took the liberty of copying a few pages from a book by the foremost representitive of the Sophia Perennis a true Sage of the twentieth century the late Frithjof Schuon. I'd like to hear any responses to the following.

"Some people will say that science has long since shown the inconsistency of Revelations, Which arise -as they would argue- from our inveterate nostalgia as timid and unsatisfied earthlings. In a context such as that of this book, there is no need to reply yet again to such a thesis, but let us nevertheless take the opportunity to add one more image to those already given elsewhere. Imagine a radiant summer sky and imagine simple folk who gaze at it, projecting into it their dream of the hereafter ; now suppose that it were possible to transport these simple folk into the dark and freezing abyss of the galaxies and nebulae with it’s overwhelming silence. In this abyss all too many would lose their faith, and this is precisely what happens as a result of modern science, both to the learned and to the victims of popularization. What most men do not know –and if they could know it, why should they be called on to believe it(?) is that this blue sky, though illusory as an optical error and belied by the vision of interplanetary space, is nonetheless an adequate reflection of the Heaven of the Angels and the Blesses and that therefore, despite everything, it is this blue mirage, flecked with silver clouds, which is right and will have the last say; to be astonished at this amounts to admitting that it is by chance that we are here on earth and see the sky as we do. Of course the black abyss of the galaxies also reflects something, but the symbolism is then shifted and is no longer a question of the Heaven of the Angels; it is then – to remain faithful to our point of departure – doubtless first a question of the terrors of the divine mysteries, in which any man is lost who seeks to violate them by means of his fallible reason and without adequate motive; in a positive sense, it is the ‘scientia sacra’ which transcends the faith of the simple and is, ‘Deo juvante’ , accessible to the pure Intellect; but it is also a question, according to the immediate symbolism of appearances, of the abysses of universal manifestation , of this samsara whose limits indefinitely elude our ordinary experience. Finally, extra-terrestrial space likewise reflects death, as has already been pointed out above; it is a projection outside our earthly security into dizzying void and unimaginable strangeness; this is something with can be understood in a spiritual sense since we must “die before we die”. What we would chiefly emphasize here is the error of believing that by mere fact of it’s objective content science possesses the power and the right to destroy myths and religions and that it is thus some kind of higher experience, which kills gods and beliefs; in reality it is human incapacity to understand unexpected phenomena and to resolve certain seeing antinomies, which is smothering the truth and dehumanizing the world."

I won't have computer access for a day or so, so please bare with me on replying.

Regards,
D.S.
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Re: True Gnosis


Science does not interfere with faith. It only interferes with other forms of knowledge (metaphysics, etc.). Faith becomes unnecessary when there is knowledge.

Question: is it worth substituting faith with knowledge?
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