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A new film for everyone


It is with a sense of unease, uncertainty and hesitation that I type this message. I feel exposed: ready to be accused as a fake, a phoney, pretentious, a liar. Such is the anxiety of following your heart and emotions in filmmaking nowadays.

I have learnt much from Cinema Seekers since a little heard of director called Andrei Tarkovsky changed my life. An internet search led to this site, and I more or less agree with the principles and passion of the webmasters. I have tried to put into practice those principles of poetic logic that the great directors choose, and who transformed cinema into a (potential) spiritual medium. I am still an amateur, with no budget, no actors no training and yet here is this enigma of a film I have created; I suspect more a mystery to me than anyone else.

The internet is no place for watching films, unless you enjoy squashed frames and compression blotches, but here more than anywhere else I think I can find likeminded people to share this film with. Please take the time (16 minutes) to watch this (lights down, volume up) be patient, it is a 50MB file and if anyone can, please give me your opinions: what does this mean to you?

http://democratfilm.angeltowns.net/winterwaterfilm.html

yours sincerely,
Nathan Preciado Coombs

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First of all, we would like to thank you for your confidence in us and our site. This is definitely the right place for your kind of filmmaking, and we appreciate the courage it took for you to invite people to watch your film. Personally, we loved it. The cinematography was simply superb! It's hard to believe you shot it on video. The poetic narrative was right up our alley, and the use of personal photographs was also very appealing to us. We were particularly impressed by the last shot of the film (hopefully, nobody got pneumonia afterwards). To us the overall meaning of the film was: man observing Creation and contemplating his place in It. When we update our "Cinemaseekers Honor Roll" (which won't be for awhile), we'll definitely place your film on it. Congratulations and thank you for posting!
 
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Thank you for your support, I am glad you managed to find something in the film.

A shame there are no other replies.
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A human being reflecting on his past/memories and creation around him. He is contemplating the world around him.

The only thing that bothered me was the music. I felt really uncomfortable with it.

Still it’s a daring film with some beautiful images. For someone with no actors and no budget,..... I found it impressive.
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Thanks Chris. The music is by Sandro Perri (Polmo Polpo)who was impressed with the film and has retrospectively given me permission to use the music.

He is an artist from the legendary independent label Constellation Records, with such bands as Godspeed you Black Emperor, Silver Mt. Zion etc.. Bands with interesting instrumental combinations of classical and guitar music, and very politically active members.

http://www.cstrecords.com/html/polmopolpo.html

Music is very subjective. For one person a long drone can be just noise, to others it can hold a person in complete rapture. Is this what you meant by 'uncomfortable' or was it something deeper relating to the interplay with the images?
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I really admire this label, so although only very tangentally related to what this website and forum is for I felt like posting their manifesto.

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Constellation began releasing experimental rock music in Montreal in 1997, seeking to enact a mode of cultural production that critiques the worst tendencies of the music industry, artistic commodification, and perhaps in some tiny way, the world at large. We have attempted to evolve one possible model for the recovery of an independent music ethic, hoping to summon some real sense of indie rock in spite of its reduction to a branded slogan through corporate co-optation, its laissez-faire attitude towards the market and the means of production, and all the facile irony that helps pave the path for these content-negating trends.

Together with the musicians who release records on the label, we have worked to rekindle a critical rock music cognisant of geography and social conditions; to reflect these concerns both musically and practically by building self-sufficient local structures for performing, recording and releasing work; to hold fast to the beautiful promise of independent rock as a perpetually nascent musical form capable of uncertain, unstable, unassimilable, untarnished transmissions.

This is our 'post-rock' -- a term that must be construed politically in equal measure to its referencing of some diffuse 'instrumental' or 'deconstructed' musical aesthetic. 'Indie rock' was never a genre and its bastardisation as an aesthetic category was one of countless elegant corporate-intellectual coups during the 1990s. Sadly, all too many hipper-than-now taste-makers were happily complicit, ready to replace 'indie' with 'post' and thus help extinguish any abiding concern about the economies that ground and contextualise rock music.

The world has not changed. Evil cowards rule the world and terror prevails on all sides. We go on mucking about with instruments and cardboard and test pressings and distribution deals in ways that we hope will avoid or at least minimise corruption of the work, all the while knowing our freedom to do so is soaked in the blood of innocents. Music means very very little in all of this, but if it can somehow speak to THIS, we humanise ourselves a little along the way.
 
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No, it had nothing to do with the interplay with the images. It was just the music at the “beginning” of the film that made me nervous. Later on it’s better. I showed your film to a friend of mine and he had the same experience. He said the music at the beginning made him feel sick. Eventually he stopped watching because of the music. It was very strange. Normally I like repetitive music. Yes music is very subjective. I don’t know. Maybe other people will like it.

But on the other hand I really loved the sound of thunder and the music on the iceskatingscene, but after that the music became too violent. I also loved the music on the last shot. And again the natural sounds of the river where great.
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Nice short, for sure. My very first impression was that it might be something of a meditation on life, or that perhaps the older woman we see in the window represented Mother Earth peering on our loss of humanity. But towards the end I felt one was allowed viewing access into the unconsciousness of a ghost(for lack of a better word)or rather someone who has "crossed over". And the womam we see fade in and out in the begining watching the man wander, and the older woman in the window are one and the same and she is just watching over a lost lover perhaps. With the end sequence being their final meeting. For sure a meditation on life but not a general one, a very personal one.
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My experiences watching the film.

The whole thing was meditative. One part in particular stood out, when the music reached a climax at the time the lady looks out of the window and then went to the quieter section with figures standing in the river.

To me the music sat a little inharmoniously with some of the scenes of nature, in the sense that it is had a strange tension to it that created an interesting experience.

I thought the film was effective especially given the limitations of the small quicktime video on which I viewed it.

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Thank you Mr. Coombs for making this fine film available. I've posted a link to it on my modest website azure comments. Perhaps you could give more information on where this film could be available [email address?], as you'll see I've had some comment on it.

Please keep up the good work - it's refreshing to find people focussing on the artistic instead of the commercial!
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